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T O P I C R E V I E Wnext to neptuneWow, I just figured out after many years (since I got to know my friends TOB) that we have an almost exact Moon square Saturn (me being the saturn) And I really felt that everything made sense after reading the description about this aspect...We have had many ups and down (and she is one if the friends I actually have the most fun with at times), but often I feel kinda depressed in our company, I really don't know why, cause I am so very far from being depressed in real life... I also often feel a bit "lonely" or isolated emotionally... its kinda weird, cause at other times I don't feel any of this, and we laugh all the time. We do have a close bond in our friendship, but sometimes I also feel it is a bit platonic or superficial... sometimes I have even doubted if it was worth it, and whether I should cut the ties I feel like this aspect is the ultimative hardest aspect to have in a synastry... and especially on the long therm...? Does anyone have some experiences overcoming this aspect? I dont got any intentions of leaving our friendship at all... but would be nice to know if someone could share some thoughts (Btw we also got a tight moon square jupiter, and my moon is in her 5th house, which also indicates that we have loads of good times together) RandallBump!angel4845I hate Saturn in friendships!!! I hate it!!! There's this girl that I absolutely adore an old friend but she is so cold towards me, she's got Moon conjunct Saturn square my Venus and Jupiter. She is jealous and insecure and finds me incredibly immature. Saturn is a wet blanket in friendships at least to me it is. ------------------Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th Houseyungang_grottoI can really relate. My Saturn is square one of my best friend's Moon (the same person who was my partner this past year).My Jupiter is also sextile his Moon and my Mars is conjunct it. The Saturn factor is really strong though and I know what you mean, all of it. It is obviously a really strong aspect for devotion because although it is certainly tempting to break the tie at times, the pull to continue relating is especially strong with a Saturn-Moon contact. My Saturn is also conjunct his South Node/Neptune, and that's also a factor for us in the difficulty with breaking contact even if sometimes we both really wish we could! It's pretty wild. Obviously we aren't done learning from one another. Davison Saturn is sextile the Sun/Venus/Mercury stellium... which grants the smoothness and stability and longevity which is beginning to surprise both of us I think. We have the same bipolar situation with sometimes really great times and laughter but overall a lot more heavy feelings. His Saturn conjunct my Ascendant as well.PiscesCancerTaurusWhat if this aspect is DW in a synastry chart? And they are both a very tight orb. next to neptune quote:Originally posted by yungang_grotto:I can really relate. My Saturn is square one of my best friend's Moon (the same person who was my partner this past year).My Jupiter is also sextile his Moon and my Mars is conjunct it. The Saturn factor is really strong though and I know what you mean, all of it. It is obviously a really strong aspect for devotion because although it is certainly tempting to break the tie at times, the pull to continue relating is especially strong with a Saturn-Moon contact. My Saturn is also conjunct his South Node/Neptune, and that's also a factor for us in the difficulty with breaking contact even if sometimes we both really wish we could! It's pretty wild. Obviously we aren't done learning from one another. Davison Saturn is sextile the Sun/Venus/Mercury stellium... which grants the smoothness and stability and longevity which is beginning to surprise both of us I think. We have the same bipolar situation with sometimes really great times and laughter but overall a lot more heavy feelings. His Saturn conjunct my Ascendant as well.Yeah it's strange, cause for an example with me and my friend, our social life also feel so "infiltrated" with each others, so it's like even when I wanted to break free from time to time, I felt that I couldn't because I also felt a bit codependent on our mutual friend group...I feel at times, that if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be as big a part of the group, cause we really support each other in social situations and 2 just feels stronger than 1 :S But yeah, I think it is just important to have other friends as well... but whenever I am with my friend I can also feel a bit restricted emotionally actually... today I noticed that I had a hard time showing "affection" when she is around... (but in general I also got problems with that, but it gets worse) :Snext to neptune quote:Originally posted by PiscesCancerTaurus:What if this aspect is DW in a synastry chart? And they are both a very tight orb. I think it could be even harder then, cause both would be saturn and thus having a hard time showing affection... with only 1 person being saturn, it would be more obvious, but the DW could be really restrictive I think? :S next to neptune quote:Originally posted by angel4845:I hate Saturn in friendships!!! I hate it!!! There's this girl that I absolutely adore an old friend but she is so cold towards me, she's got Moon conjunct Saturn square my Venus and Jupiter. She is jealous and insecure and finds me incredibly immature. Saturn is a wet blanket in friendships at least to me it is. Well sometimes I think it can "feel" much more worse than it actually is... My friend (moon in libra) for an example can get super offensive towards me (capricorn saturn) even though I am not trying to put her down at all... it's quite the opposite really, but I think being a saturn dominant person I can be a bit critical and demanding, because I ought people to improve their own self-discipline ... it is not to be cruel but to help. But my friend takes this far too serious at times... its really a saturn-moon square in a nutshell :P This is not the biggest problem though... the most annoying thing about this aspect is that it generates negative or depressing thoughts :/
We have had many ups and down (and she is one if the friends I actually have the most fun with at times), but often I feel kinda depressed in our company, I really don't know why, cause I am so very far from being depressed in real life... I also often feel a bit "lonely" or isolated emotionally... its kinda weird, cause at other times I don't feel any of this, and we laugh all the time.
We do have a close bond in our friendship, but sometimes I also feel it is a bit platonic or superficial... sometimes I have even doubted if it was worth it, and whether I should cut the ties
I feel like this aspect is the ultimative hardest aspect to have in a synastry... and especially on the long therm...? Does anyone have some experiences overcoming this aspect? I dont got any intentions of leaving our friendship at all... but would be nice to know if someone could share some thoughts
(Btw we also got a tight moon square jupiter, and my moon is in her 5th house, which also indicates that we have loads of good times together)
------------------Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House
My Jupiter is also sextile his Moon and my Mars is conjunct it. The Saturn factor is really strong though and I know what you mean, all of it.
It is obviously a really strong aspect for devotion because although it is certainly tempting to break the tie at times, the pull to continue relating is especially strong with a Saturn-Moon contact. My Saturn is also conjunct his South Node/Neptune, and that's also a factor for us in the difficulty with breaking contact even if sometimes we both really wish we could! It's pretty wild. Obviously we aren't done learning from one another.
Davison Saturn is sextile the Sun/Venus/Mercury stellium... which grants the smoothness and stability and longevity which is beginning to surprise both of us I think.
We have the same bipolar situation with sometimes really great times and laughter but overall a lot more heavy feelings. His Saturn conjunct my Ascendant as well.
quote:Originally posted by yungang_grotto:I can really relate. My Saturn is square one of my best friend's Moon (the same person who was my partner this past year).My Jupiter is also sextile his Moon and my Mars is conjunct it. The Saturn factor is really strong though and I know what you mean, all of it. It is obviously a really strong aspect for devotion because although it is certainly tempting to break the tie at times, the pull to continue relating is especially strong with a Saturn-Moon contact. My Saturn is also conjunct his South Node/Neptune, and that's also a factor for us in the difficulty with breaking contact even if sometimes we both really wish we could! It's pretty wild. Obviously we aren't done learning from one another. Davison Saturn is sextile the Sun/Venus/Mercury stellium... which grants the smoothness and stability and longevity which is beginning to surprise both of us I think. We have the same bipolar situation with sometimes really great times and laughter but overall a lot more heavy feelings. His Saturn conjunct my Ascendant as well.
Yeah it's strange, cause for an example with me and my friend, our social life also feel so "infiltrated" with each others, so it's like even when I wanted to break free from time to time, I felt that I couldn't because I also felt a bit codependent on our mutual friend group...I feel at times, that if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be as big a part of the group, cause we really support each other in social situations and 2 just feels stronger than 1 :S
But yeah, I think it is just important to have other friends as well... but whenever I am with my friend I can also feel a bit restricted emotionally actually... today I noticed that I had a hard time showing "affection" when she is around... (but in general I also got problems with that, but it gets worse) :S
quote:Originally posted by PiscesCancerTaurus:What if this aspect is DW in a synastry chart? And they are both a very tight orb.
I think it could be even harder then, cause both would be saturn and thus having a hard time showing affection... with only 1 person being saturn, it would be more obvious, but the DW could be really restrictive I think? :S
quote:Originally posted by angel4845:I hate Saturn in friendships!!! I hate it!!! There's this girl that I absolutely adore an old friend but she is so cold towards me, she's got Moon conjunct Saturn square my Venus and Jupiter. She is jealous and insecure and finds me incredibly immature. Saturn is a wet blanket in friendships at least to me it is.
Well sometimes I think it can "feel" much more worse than it actually is... My friend (moon in libra) for an example can get super offensive towards me (capricorn saturn) even though I am not trying to put her down at all... it's quite the opposite really, but I think being a saturn dominant person I can be a bit critical and demanding, because I ought people to improve their own self-discipline ... it is not to be cruel but to help. But my friend takes this far too serious at times... its really a saturn-moon square in a nutshell :P
This is not the biggest problem though... the most annoying thing about this aspect is that it generates negative or depressing thoughts :/
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